tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post9174466899322029805..comments2023-10-01T10:50:05.348-04:00Comments on The Homeless Parrot: How to know a good veterinarian from a bad oneThe Homeless Parrothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02566801733035183569noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-32967785164199050312010-12-08T23:58:33.367-05:002010-12-08T23:58:33.367-05:00Angie: I really don't have a suggestion for th...Angie: I really don't have a suggestion for that. Kennels require the vaccines as CYA medicine, I'm sure. It's hard to get away from that, unfortunately. I wish I had a better answer. <br /><br />Elizabeth: I always find it odd that vets recommend that pets stay overnight post-operatively. They usually unsupervised during that time, so that if there is a complication - who would know?? I'd rather send a patient home with an owner so that SOMEONE is watching it!<br /><br />Mary: that's an awful story! I can't believe anyone would think your pets were fat. I can tell from the pics on your blog that they are fit, trim fliers. <br /><br />As to the caique thing...I would think an avian vet would know the species. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to know that there are white-bellies and black-heads. There are a great deal of different parrot species, so I can see someone not being familiar with all of them. I love parrots, and I still occasionally see a species I have never heard of - esp in the Cockatoo family.The Homeless Parrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566801733035183569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-44017517774185356752010-11-30T12:28:33.787-05:002010-11-30T12:28:33.787-05:00I had such a horrible experience at my last vet vi...I had such a horrible experience at my last vet visit I wanted to blog about it, but was worried about potentially pushing someone to not get care for their bird that I didn't.<br /><br />Unfortunately, my great vet moved across the country so am trying (so far unsuccessfully) to replace him.<br /><br />At this last visit, they had put the information under the wrong animal, their scale was wrong, and I got lectured about having an obese pet (I don't -- their scale was wrong plus he flies a lot so has great muscle tone -- something not normally seen in companion parrots.)<br /><br />She wouldn't let me stay in the room during the examination, didn't listen to my concerns, etc. Horrible and $500!<br /><br />Though one time I took my caique in (different vet who does mostly avian practice) and talked about him with the vet. He went in the back, and the tech asked him "That's a beautiful bird -- what is he?" and the vet replied -- "I don't know -- some kind of conure."<br /><br />So it's also important to me that my vet know what species my bird is!<br /><br />I wish avian practice was near what's available for dogs and cats. And as long as I'm wishing, that my good vet hadn't moved.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645791926538907697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-56291837766787308492010-11-28T20:12:09.044-05:002010-11-28T20:12:09.044-05:00Most of the vets in my area don't tell their c...Most of the vets in my area don't tell their clients that the overnight and weekend care is not monitored.. The animals are there all by themselves once the clinics close. <br />Not my pets.. I refused a spay on my girl when I found out they insisted she stay overnight yet no one was going to be there.. I would rather have my dog home with me than alone in a clinic.<br />So now the clinic I go to has monitored overnight care by a vet.<br />I pay more but I feel the standard of care my pets get is worth it.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13744354426654131900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-81048315998901233952010-11-28T18:04:59.619-05:002010-11-28T18:04:59.619-05:00Just reading this now after being out of town. Gr...Just reading this now after being out of town. Great post! I have a question about vaccines. Rabies is the only one required by law (city) here. However there is not a kennel in town that will board a dog that is not "up-to-date" on shots, and to them this means yearly (except rabies, which they accept bi-yearly). The vet clinics here all recommend yearly vaccines (with bi-yearly rabies). I start getting reminder cards a month before the year is up.<br /><br />So if the vets here all recommend yearly shots, and the kennels require yearly shots, what are my options other than not ever boarding my dog? I don't kennel often, but we do usually take a week long trip every spring break.<br /><br />How do you find a kennel and a vet that won't require unnecessary vaccines?<br /><br />Angie in MNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-1232934293253346822010-11-27T19:31:14.211-05:002010-11-27T19:31:14.211-05:00I worked for a vet during summer break who would h...I worked for a vet during summer break who would hit aggressive (nervous, possibly) pets. She tried to justify hitting the dog to me, and let's just say her answer wasn't that plausible. Her clinic doesn't monitor anesthesia either and they'll use it on dogs who need to be groomed. The dogs don't even need to be aggressive to get that treatment.<br /><br />And she's one of three vets in my city; the others are worse.<br /><br />Great post, by the way!Carrienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-89722494986362455442010-11-27T18:57:45.455-05:002010-11-27T18:57:45.455-05:00Elizabeth: I think I went to school with that guy ...Elizabeth: I think I went to school with that guy :)<br /><br />Good for you for being an advocate for your pet, thinking clearly, and getting a 2nd opinion. 2nd opinions never hurt!The Homeless Parrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566801733035183569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-33378250145550916172010-11-27T18:57:02.014-05:002010-11-27T18:57:02.014-05:00Kim: absolutely on all of those. If a pet needs to...Kim: absolutely on all of those. If a pet needs to be hospitalized, and there is no one to stay with it, it should be referred. <br /><br />I will say that some of the best techs I have ever worked with were OTJ trained. And some of the worst I have worked with were certified. I do think that moving toward requiring certification for vet techs is important, and I support that movement. But don't let training fool you! (same with vets and MDs)The Homeless Parrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566801733035183569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-44208198712469823542010-11-27T18:55:40.027-05:002010-11-27T18:55:40.027-05:00Holly: you're right - bedside manner does matt...Holly: you're right - bedside manner does matter. What I meant was that if you have to pick between great doctor/bad personality and bad doctor/great personality - you want to err on the great doctor side. Bedside manner and kindness to pets is imperative and makes owners trust you much more than a cold fish personality and aloofness, I agree.The Homeless Parrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566801733035183569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-26561435679975033292010-11-27T18:54:46.968-05:002010-11-27T18:54:46.968-05:00Outrider: the caveat should be SMALL animal vets f...Outrider: the caveat should be SMALL animal vets for the VIN comment. I can definitely see that VIN is heavily skewed (on the msg boards etc) toward SA. I would likely not be a VIN member either, if I did LA. I should change it to association with a CE program of some sort.The Homeless Parrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566801733035183569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-28020852405244408252010-11-27T17:53:27.287-05:002010-11-27T17:53:27.287-05:00What I want is a veterinarian who hires educated, ...What I want is a veterinarian who hires educated, certified/licensed veterinary technicians to care for my pet. Someone who knows what it means when the CO2 is high or the pulse ox is low & what to do about it during surgery. If my GP does keep my pet overnight, I want a veterinary technician or a doctor to be in the hospital also.Kimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-80627737786662782212010-11-27T09:14:00.068-05:002010-11-27T09:14:00.068-05:00Great post!
For me it is important to have a vet t...Great post!<br />For me it is important to have a vet that works with me, explains what is going and and doesn't just tell me what to do but gives me choices. <br />About 2 years I found a red raised lump on my lab that literally tripled in size in 3 days over the long holiday weekend. My regular vet was on holiday so I took an appointment with another vet in the practice.<br />He immediately told me that the lump was cancer and would need to come off.. Now somehow the intelligent part of my brain just turned off.. He then want to check his ears because of a previous history of ear infections. My guy is terrified of having his ears looked at and my own vet is an expert at getting a good look with a few soft words and cuddle.<br />What ensued was a nightmare for my dog and me. He ended up having two people try and hold him and still could not get a look so then he gave me a lecture on how I needed to train my dog so a vet could look in his ears etc..and I should stop trying to coddle him and not tell him he was a good boy when he would not let his ears be looked at. Then he said he would need to flush his ears out during the surgery..<br />That was all he did, never even laid a stethoscope on him.. Just gave me an appointment for surgery.<br /><br />When I came to my senses a couple of hrs later I knew he was never touching my animals again ever!<br />I figured he must be a genious to be able to tell me for sure my dog had cancer without a biopsy and needed his ears flushed without being able to look in them. <br /><br />I immediately went over my boy with a fine tooth comb and found another similiar lump. <br />A couple of days later I took my boy to see my own vet she did a complete exam including blood work. We decided the lumps should come off. She was even able to look in his ears after a little cuddle. Nothing wrong there at all.<br /><br />The lump the first vet said was cancer turned out to be a histiocytoma, and the second lump turned out to be a stage one mast cell tumor. They looked alike to the naked eye so it just goes to show you how you cannot tell by just looking. <br /><br />Every lump gets a biopsy..<br /><br />I know what I don't want in a vet.. which makes it easier to see what I do want.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13744354426654131900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-49015958624461938522010-11-27T07:13:17.120-05:002010-11-27T07:13:17.120-05:00Most of the equine veterinarians I know, myself in...Most of the equine veterinarians I know, myself included, do not belong to VIN. We do belong to ECN and/or the AAEP listserv. Much better source of information (I cancelled my VIN subscription after the trial period for this reason).Outridernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-18891483305238353942010-11-26T12:35:18.860-05:002010-11-26T12:35:18.860-05:00I went to a vet for a second opinion for a skin is...I went to a vet for a second opinion for a skin issue with one dog. He would not come near her, or touch her. <br /><br />How could he see .anything. without an exam?<br /><br />Won't be using him again for much.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17685436243608973979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-36436714637870425492010-11-26T12:33:28.853-05:002010-11-26T12:33:28.853-05:00I won't say that bedside manner means nothing....I won't say that bedside manner means nothing...I think there needs to be a compromise. Sometimes, when patients are hysterical, or borderline hysterical bedside manner can mean the difference between engaging them or not. <br /><br />Being a good technician is also important, bedside manner won't carry the day in surgery or emergencies. <br /><br />For me, I also need a vet who will include me. If I am brushed off, I won't go back. If there are multiple options, I need to know what they are and how to sift that information. The Vet needs to be able to help me sift that.<br /><br />Kindness to my pets also matters. I will never go to a vet or clinic that I believe is going to be physically aggressive to my pet.<br /><br />Kindness to my VET also matters. Most of my dogs are very good, but I have one rescue here that is muzzled before we go in, stays muzzled the entire time and leaves that way. Because I have taken away one means of protecting himself, the Vet needs to be kind to him, and thus by extension me.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17685436243608973979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9212251348411401170.post-57632414680059977542010-11-26T12:14:48.770-05:002010-11-26T12:14:48.770-05:00Nice summary. Unbelievable that there are still ve...Nice summary. Unbelievable that there are still vets around who use money to undermine some of those important bullet points...<br />Won't refer to after hours care so they don't lose a patient to another clinic<br />Leave animals in pain<br />Sell unnecessary goods to people<br />Prolong treatment and perform procedures on an animal when it should be euthanised and when owners are struggling to pay anyway <br />Inadequately monitor anesthetics<br />Perform surgery beyond their capability<br />I could go on, but I also know there are many really good, thorough, pleasant and conscientious ones who work hard to ensure that your list is covered. I just advise people to ask around about any vet, and if they feel uncomfortable, move on to another!<br />Now, what about the clients that stop your wonderful list from happening- reality for many people is money shortage,.<br />Vet as they fill out consent form for surgery: "would you like pain relief to take home for your dog this evening after her Spey?"<br />Owner " I'll have to.see if I have any money left after the groceries!"Fi from Four Paws and Whiskershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217307759511472654noreply@blogger.com